Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou
Can you spot the 'punching disease'?
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68 responses to “Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou”
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no head movement
Definitely correct, but not the disease that I’m looking for!
Let his left jab stay out too long
In what sense? Didn’t get pulled back?
Lazy with his left hand. Didn’t pull it back after the jab to protect himself from the cross first and the overhand right.
Yes, but not the disease I’m looking for!
Yes, but not the disease I’m looking for!!
Pushing the punch, shoulder/body moving first…
I’m not entirely sure what you mean… can you elaborate?
I’ll let Michael Jai White explain it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCW_Pf30ddU
THIS is the right answer!
I found it hard to get people to understand this. The “hit my hand” exercise demonstrates that it works but to teach it I have another progression. I ask them how they flip a light switch, do they move their shoulder first or just reach out and flip the switch. This usually works when they are moving slowly but they they want to speed up and they go back to pushing. Then the challenge is to get them to increase speed gradually… Apparently moving slowly and being aware of their movement is a separate skill.
I’ll be interested in hearing what you think of my take on it. I think it’s a matter of supporting fast twitch outward movement in the tricep without feeling compelled to ‘load’ the punch into a better leverage position, OR onto a different subset of stronger muscles to get the punch started.
Althought, maybe we’re saying the same thing… maybe loading the hand into a ‘stronger’ position is basically the same thing as trying to push the punch. It is, after all, your pecs and delts that do the pushing, and those are what you’re trying to incorporate by loading the hand.
The way I think of it is where I put my mind. I focus on my fist and moving it to the target then increasing speed. I think it was Marc MacYoung that said to focus on hitting faster not harder. I’ve tried to think of it from a physics perspective, f=ma, getting the acceleration first, then adding more mass moving more and more of my body weight into the strike.
I think that this is a great approach. I have some interesting data to share in the future regarding the different muscle contractions required to get a punch started, followed by immediate relaxation to allow maximum speed to build, followed by additional contractions at the exact moment of impact. Dr. Stuart McGill did a fascinating study on elite strikers using electrodes in muscles to measure contractile force and timing. I think that the research will support in large part what we’re saying.
Oh I like that concept, initial twitch fallowed by relaxation! I will have to play with that one.
I am in NO way a fighting expert, but I do know physics, so when I’m trying to sort out my punches (and I have this disease badly) I also think about KE=1/2mv^2. It’s the same as your force equation rephrased, but makes it really obvious. Double the mass behind the punch and you double the energy, but double the speed and you quadruple the energy. If only I could put that into practice 😉
I like your reference to specific muscle groups; once the basic motion is there one can explore the other tools available.
When jabbing, the punch has to always come back to guard, a.k.a your always protect your face Ngannou lefts it straight and doesn’t come back, thus opening a huge space for the K.O.
This is true, but not the disease I am looking for. The counterstrike was fated to land before Ngannou even started pulling his hand back.
He’s not bringing his lead hand back to his jaw and protecting his head. He keeps dropping his arm after jabs.
Yes, but not what I’m looking for!
No feints no lateral movement
You’re probably right… I would have to watch the preceeding seconds, as I’m only remembering the knockout and knockdowns in my imagination. However, not the disease I’m looking for!
Lowered his guard and left his left side exposed.
Yes, but not the disease I’m looking for!
He’s addicted to Right Hooks!
Ha!
Leaving his jab out
Like after it was thrown?
Shutting his eyes?
No sir!
Leaving that jab hanging instead of bringing it back home to defend, also he’s tossing the jab without using the shoulder to protect the chin until the hand does come home. Not sure that’s what you’re looking for, but both are bad habits I see from a lot of punchers.
Agreed bad habits, especially IF the fighter has no intention of moving the head. However, not the particular disease that I’m looking for!