Whew!… That was pretty spectacular. Interesting that Lomochenko was so conservative in the beginning. Two things surprised me. Lomochenko was less active with his bobbing and weaving and angular movement than what I expected. Also those clips showed only a handful of counters from slips and rolls like you teach in your head movement video. Amazing conditioning and toughness from both fighters. How Lopez can take three hard simultaneous shots to the face and not stumble even a little bit is amazing.
Trav…
as always…
Love the way you observe and speculate, analyze, conclude and then express yourself… and am so grateful that you share it all with us.
I’ve learnt so much from you.
Thanks.
I saw the entire fight. Teofimo was swelled up because Lomachenko realized he didn’t have any answers or adjustments and started landing intentional headbutts.
Trav…
I love the way you observe and speculate, analyze and conclude, then express yourself … am so grateful that you then share it with all of us.
I’ve learnt so much from you.
Thanks!
I thought the Sean Bean joke was hilarious and the Money Ball analogy is spot on.
I have to respectfully disagree with Trav about Lomachenko. He doesn’t come anywhere close to Ray Robinson, Archie Moore, Henry Armstrong, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, Jack Johnson, Sam Langford, Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, Ricardo Lopez, Roberto Duran, Marvelous Marvin Hagler, Ray Leonard, Sandy Saddler, Willie Pep, Abe Atel, Julio Cesar Chavez Sr, Carlos Monzon, Niccolino Locche, James Toney, Roy Jones, Pernell Whittaker, Floyd Mayweather Jr, and so on. There are too many incredible fighters in Boxing History to pick a “Best who ever lived” but Lomachenko is far from it if there was one.
He’s been pushed way too heavily and misrepresented as something he’s not to keep money coming from the Eastern European Market.
Hunter… when was the last time you went back and pulled up an Ezzard Charles clip, and compared him to the fighters of today? What about Walcott? Or Joe Louis? I think you’re just repeating the stuff that your granddad told you, without honestly assessing the fighters. Only a few of the guys that you mention even deserve to be named with Lomachenko, and most of them would be mid-tier in today’s standards.
Good grief Trav … and it seemed like you really knew your boxing 😧!! What a frankly ignorant condescending statement 🙄. So Hunter couldn’t possibly have looked at and studied footage of fighters from before on .. oh I don’t know, some website where millions of videos are posted? Especially where there is a superb poster by the name of ‘ lee whylie’ giving superb analytical technical breakdowns of fighters + fights of the masters and what made them truly special. lomo at all comparable then to the greatness of Duran ? Srl / azunah nelson / Julio Chavez / the phenomenal mike maccallum etc etc ? They fought excellent contenders , quality champions in there on right, and came through great battles often. Quality of opposition now.? Best you speak to your grandfather Trav- you might learn something !
Russell, give me a break. Ezzard Charles would win 25% of his fights in today’s boxing climate. And Niccolino Locche?! You must be joking. The guy used to smoke cigarettes on the stool between rounds. Joe Louis had the build of a stocky swimmer. He wouldn’t win a single round against a guy like Lennox Lewis, Klitchko, Tyson Fury, or even someone as sloppy as Deonte Wilder. Chavez, Duran, Sugar Ray, Toney, Whitacre, and Jones were all some of the best… but anyone who spouts those other old names is not looking objectively at reality. Joe Walcott fucking sucks. He was only known for being nearly killed by Rocky Marciano… who was also massively technically flawed. But you’re comparing these guys to Loma. Just dumb.
Hunter, I couldn’t agree more. Yes lomo has skills of course, though I think the ” eye catching” nature of them plus copious footage of his ‘unorthodox ‘ trading camp ( like he’s the first to train unconventionally 🙄) has contributed to him being something of a ” hype job”. He surely got exposed the the first serious, and very good opponent, who came in with a workable fight plan and hand the skills, focus and determination to stick to it ! In honk lomo has gone as far as he can and is already starting to recede imo; he will still make serious dough for a while mind in a scene full of piss weak “competition “.
I must be missing something here…I thought 100,000% that it should have gone the other way….the percentage of hits…I only saw a few connections to the head from Lopez…what am I missing here. Just because he took more shots he won?? I’m weirdly frustrated about something I know little or care little about..hahaha!
So that’s the trick of Lomachenko… in order to beat Loma, don’t allow him to put his right foot behind your left foot. You have to get out of the trap as fast as you can before he can release his combinations.
Close fight but don’t agree with the decision. Lopez threw and landed more punches, but most
were not effective. Lomanchenko, without a doubt, landed the most effective punches. This is not an amateur bout. This is a professional fight, where the effectiveness of the punches counts more than the sheer number of punches.
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Whew!… That was pretty spectacular. Interesting that Lomochenko was so conservative in the beginning. Two things surprised me. Lomochenko was less active with his bobbing and weaving and angular movement than what I expected. Also those clips showed only a handful of counters from slips and rolls like you teach in your head movement video. Amazing conditioning and toughness from both fighters. How Lopez can take three hard simultaneous shots to the face and not stumble even a little bit is amazing.
Trav…
as always…
Love the way you observe and speculate, analyze, conclude and then express yourself… and am so grateful that you share it all with us.
I’ve learnt so much from you.
Thanks.
Well, if I only saw his bleeding /swollen forehead and broken nose I’d have thought he lost. A close match but he was the more active fighter
I saw the entire fight. Teofimo was swelled up because Lomachenko realized he didn’t have any answers or adjustments and started landing intentional headbutts.
Trav…
I love the way you observe and speculate, analyze and conclude, then express yourself … am so grateful that you then share it with all of us.
I’ve learnt so much from you.
Thanks!
No way that guy won.
I could have beaten either one of them if I weren’t so fat and out of shape.
I thought the Sean Bean joke was hilarious and the Money Ball analogy is spot on.
I have to respectfully disagree with Trav about Lomachenko. He doesn’t come anywhere close to Ray Robinson, Archie Moore, Henry Armstrong, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, Jack Johnson, Sam Langford, Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, Ricardo Lopez, Roberto Duran, Marvelous Marvin Hagler, Ray Leonard, Sandy Saddler, Willie Pep, Abe Atel, Julio Cesar Chavez Sr, Carlos Monzon, Niccolino Locche, James Toney, Roy Jones, Pernell Whittaker, Floyd Mayweather Jr, and so on. There are too many incredible fighters in Boxing History to pick a “Best who ever lived” but Lomachenko is far from it if there was one.
He’s been pushed way too heavily and misrepresented as something he’s not to keep money coming from the Eastern European Market.
Hunter… when was the last time you went back and pulled up an Ezzard Charles clip, and compared him to the fighters of today? What about Walcott? Or Joe Louis? I think you’re just repeating the stuff that your granddad told you, without honestly assessing the fighters. Only a few of the guys that you mention even deserve to be named with Lomachenko, and most of them would be mid-tier in today’s standards.
Don’t forget Joe Calzaghe who should be in any top 10.
Good grief Trav … and it seemed like you really knew your boxing 😧!! What a frankly ignorant condescending statement 🙄. So Hunter couldn’t possibly have looked at and studied footage of fighters from before on .. oh I don’t know, some website where millions of videos are posted? Especially where there is a superb poster by the name of ‘ lee whylie’ giving superb analytical technical breakdowns of fighters + fights of the masters and what made them truly special. lomo at all comparable then to the greatness of Duran ? Srl / azunah nelson / Julio Chavez / the phenomenal mike maccallum etc etc ? They fought excellent contenders , quality champions in there on right, and came through great battles often. Quality of opposition now.? Best you speak to your grandfather Trav- you might learn something !
Russell, give me a break. Ezzard Charles would win 25% of his fights in today’s boxing climate. And Niccolino Locche?! You must be joking. The guy used to smoke cigarettes on the stool between rounds. Joe Louis had the build of a stocky swimmer. He wouldn’t win a single round against a guy like Lennox Lewis, Klitchko, Tyson Fury, or even someone as sloppy as Deonte Wilder. Chavez, Duran, Sugar Ray, Toney, Whitacre, and Jones were all some of the best… but anyone who spouts those other old names is not looking objectively at reality. Joe Walcott fucking sucks. He was only known for being nearly killed by Rocky Marciano… who was also massively technically flawed. But you’re comparing these guys to Loma. Just dumb.
Hunter, I couldn’t agree more. Yes lomo has skills of course, though I think the ” eye catching” nature of them plus copious footage of his ‘unorthodox ‘ trading camp ( like he’s the first to train unconventionally 🙄) has contributed to him being something of a ” hype job”. He surely got exposed the the first serious, and very good opponent, who came in with a workable fight plan and hand the skills, focus and determination to stick to it ! In honk lomo has gone as far as he can and is already starting to recede imo; he will still make serious dough for a while mind in a scene full of piss weak “competition “.
I must be missing something here…I thought 100,000% that it should have gone the other way….the percentage of hits…I only saw a few connections to the head from Lopez…what am I missing here. Just because he took more shots he won?? I’m weirdly frustrated about something I know little or care little about..hahaha!
Gotta watch the whole fight!
So that’s the trick of Lomachenko… in order to beat Loma, don’t allow him to put his right foot behind your left foot. You have to get out of the trap as fast as you can before he can release his combinations.
Close fight but don’t agree with the decision. Lopez threw and landed more punches, but most
were not effective. Lomanchenko, without a doubt, landed the most effective punches. This is not an amateur bout. This is a professional fight, where the effectiveness of the punches counts more than the sheer number of punches.